President Obama: False prophet or God?

VoiceofTruth - June 15, 2009

A couple of comments, first on the article itself, then on the comments above.  It is tough to address a story such as this one, because of the division it’s sure to create, as evident in the comments.  So I applaud you Ms. Brownlee for addressing a difficult subject.  However, one issue I would like to point out is that we cannot offer praise to one person for attempting “to lead the masses on the right pathways” yet declare that individually we “must not spend our time identifying false prophets.”  Which way should we have it?  Biblically it’s the former.  This doesn’t mean that we start throwing out names of everyone we believe to be a “false prophet”, instead it means that we are to constantly be on alert with sharpened discernment of the Holy Spirit, to follow the charge of Jesus in Matthew 7:15-16 to “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.  You will know them by their fruits.”  It’s their fruits that will identify them.  Are we observing the fruits of Mr. Obama in order to make the declaration that Mr. Voight has pointed out?

For the comments:
Cjsks2009:  You are correct, Christians follow the path that God puts before them, which is the Word of God. Psalm 119:105 God’s word is very clear on the “policies” of abortion, same-sex marriage, and the dependence on God for our needs, not the government.  It does not declare that we should “respect” other religions, but instead states that Jesus is the “Way, Truth, and Life” that “no one comes to the Father” except through Him.  John 14:6 This is the Truth by which all other “religions” are measured and fail.  It is a “stumbling block” to those who do not believe. 

It is impossible to separate Religion from Politics, as we can trace this alliance even further back than is Biblically evidenced through the life of Samuel who served as Prophet, Priest, and King.  However, as you point out that “people should not politic via religion” did not our own president do this very same thing by reaching out an olive branch to the Muslim people?  A political leader addressed a religious body, not another governing body, but the Muslim religion specifically.  What are we to make of this as Christians?

ChuckMeck: It seems as though you are maybe caught up in the right vs. left, Republican vs. Democrat debate.  As Christians how do we decide which to be?  Should we not vote at all?  Or should we cast our lot with those whose values most closely identify with our own?  While it can be argued that neither side conforms its values 100% to the Bible, how am I to side with a party that endorses abortion and same-sex marriage?  Two policies that blatantly contradict Scripture.  As I alluded to earlier, let’s look at the Presidents fruits to determine his character, not to judge him personally, but to determine if he seeks the will of God.

Throwda1ststone:  The peace that you speak of is unattainable and has been since the Garden of Eden when Satan attacked the Truth of God by questioning Him to Adam and Eve.  As long as people continue to oppose the Truth that is Jesus Christ, there will continue to be a lack of peace.  As Jesus stated in Matthew 10:34-36, “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’”  By no means does this mean that Christians are to be warriors in the physical sense, but instead it enforces the fact that their will be no peace until Christ establishes His Kingdom on earth forever.  Biblical prophecy emphatically warns against “false peace” as evident in Daniel and Revelation.

I praise God for His Word that provides us the Truths against which all the lies of this world can be measured.

Sola Dei Gloria

throwda1ststone - June 13, 2009

It is so sad for people who says they follow Christ but hold hate in their heart. It is easy to follow false prophets if a person is not studing for their own salvation. There have been years of separation of this country whether it is in this country or our neighboring countries. Now there is talk of coming together, having peace, respect others as well as loving thy neighbors what’s the problem? So how can so many still want to bring a stop to that? We need to think before we judge. For those who discourage others or just having a hard time, there was a sermon that I heard and it was titled “Victory in darkness” read Exodus 13:17-22 & 14:19-20 and know that there’s a cloud of God that follows you even in a mist of darkness. Encouragement is what we are to do.
I love you all!!

ChuckMeck - June 12, 2009

We should ask not if God is on our side but if we are on the side of God.  You state that we should not point the finger or judge.  You insinuate that we are not the ones but it is God that knows the true character of a person.  Then why do you in your blog continue to insinuate (although in a veiled way) that Obama is not a good man or a good president. 

Have you considered that perhaps the Republican elite are the false prophets.  The last time I looked if Jesus had a platform it (with minor exception) didn’t even come close to tha to of what Republicans are today. 

cjsks2009 - June 10, 2009

Karyn, what is that “right pathway” that Voight was speaking of anyway?  I didn’t catch that part. The implication is that Obama is somehow taking our nation down the wrong path, how so? 

Obama is far from perfect, he would be the first to admit as much.  However, I don’t see how Voight deserves any praise for his rather empty and yes, negative remarks.

In one breath you say, “Many will lead many down the wrong path, which means few will take few down the right one…” (quite a leap but that’s beside the point), then in your closing remarks you urge us to stay on the lighted path, and to “bring as many people with us as will be wise enough to follow.” 

Christians follow the path that God puts before them, not Voight, Karyn Brownlee, or Obama.

However, Obama’s policies… seeing to the needs of the working class, seeking an emphasis on diplomacy in foreign relations, respect towards other religions and cultures, and trying to mend any and all fences in general… this is all very consistent with my Christian perspective. Your blog is an example of why people should not politic via religion.

Karyn Brownlee… your false prophet of the day! (Hyperbole admittedly, but you see my point.)